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Myths, Facts & Curious Statements

Glen Isle Partners have bombarded the citizens of Glen Cove with full page ads, newsletters, flyers, and sales pitch meetings disguised as Chamber of Commerce seminars. Let's look at some of their statements.

Myths and Statements

  • The property under contract for sale by the Glen Cove IDA/CDA will sell for a minimum price of $25 Million.

Facts or Proof

Costs of infrastructure improvements to support this high density development will be deducted from the sale price.

  • The Glen Isle development will result in a reduction of property taxes. (That means they will go down - quite a historic prediction.)

Because they (Glen Isle Partners) say so. Show of hands - how many people really believe this one???

  • The residential units will generate few children entering the school system.

Because they say so.

  • The impact on traffic in Glen Cove will be insignificant.

Because they say so; this is explained as "project will have 1/2 the traffic impact as the 1998 plan" - neither the 1998 retail plan nor its traffic projections were ever presented to the public.

  • Quality of life improvement - 25% public open space and parkland to be provided.

The Contract requires 30%.

  • These developers have done many projects before that required some land remediation. If additional work is necessary to bring the properties to the level that would support residential development, they will do it, at their expense. A response by former Mayor Maryann Holzkamp when initially questioned about how residential units could be permitted on Superfund land certified by the EPA as clean enough only for commerical use.

The Contract now says any such additional cleanup costs will be deducted from the purchase price, i.e., they will be borne by the taxpayer.

  • Quality of Life will dramatically improve for the community because of this project.

It is difficult to imagine how the addition of well over 1000 vehicles daily through the intersection at the firehouse is a quality of life improvement, and the amount of additional exhaust produced by cars idling at the light won't make us breathe easier.

  • "Everything we plan to do here, we have done many times before", according to partner Michael Posillico in the Feb. 15th Edition of the Glen Cove Record Pilot.

Glen Isle has responded to requests for information about their other similar projects. A quick review of this short list the developer's office provided shows that they have never done anything like this before anywhere.

  • One of the great benefits of the Glen Isle plan will be the sustainable, successful ferry operation.

Because they say so. A commuter ferry operation from Glen Cove to Manhattan has been tried 3 or 4 times since the 1960s. Each time the operation failed to catch on with the commuting public on a scale that could support a high-tech, high-speed service. The location of the ferry terminal half-way up the Glen Cove Creek will probably add 15 minutes to the overall one-way trip due to the slow speeds necessary to make its way safely past the marinas and turning around. The ferry service will rise or fall based on its ability to compete with the railroad line, and not because of the increased population at the waterfront, which is advertised to be mostly 'empty nesters'.

  • The project will result in little to no negative impacts to Glen Cove’s police, fire and EMS services.

Because they say so.

  • Glen Cove residents should encourage the largest possible buildings to be built on the waterfront to house the maximum number of residents to create a vibrant community at the waterfront. (Development currently envisions 3 or 4 buildings at 16 stories, up from 14 stories last June). This statement is from the testimony of Glen Isle's URBAN Planner before the Planning Board on January 16th 2007.

Glen Cove and the North Shore of Nassau County has always been considered a SUBURBAN community. When did we become URBAN? The requested 1120 residential units is only for the properties presently under contract for sale by the IDA/CDA - about 56 acres. The total residential population of Glen Cove could increase by 15% or more just from this development alone.
Additional dense residential development is envisioned for the adjoining properties that Glen Isle is negotiating to purchase, that now house businesses such as Slant Fin, Kaufman Plumbing Supply, and the Pickle Factory, all located on the North side of Garvies Point Road, as well as other commercial properties along Herb Hill Road.

  • The remediated properties under contract of sale to Glen Isle are clean enough for residential development.

The NYS Dept. of Environmental Conservation, which oversaw the remediation of the Captain's Cove hazardous waste site says that the property will not be suitable for residential development for at least 50 years. This is the property on which the highest density, 16-story buildings are to be situated.


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